A type punch mystery

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A type punch mystery
The punch on the right has no serial number or case number ,How would the conductor make up a waybill ?,any ideas on the origins of this punch and why it has no visible serial numbers how would the "confetti counters" know what punch they were tallying up ?.
Posted by T.M.W on June 22, 2009 Slideshow

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Reply KK 69521
3:03 PM on May 31, 2010 
The 'training school' theory is possible. Alternatively, it could be a machine that was assembled out of spare parts at Effra Road.
Reply Chris Jenner
6:57 AM on November 1, 2009 
I can confirm that both punches are stamped 'London Transport' on the side.
Reply T.M.W
2:50 PM on July 7, 2009 
It also could possibly be a Conductor training school punch,it is very unusual not to have case numbers.
Reply Andrew Jeffreys
4:16 AM on July 7, 2009 
Pure speculation on my part but it may be that the punch without the serial / case number was a spare or works machine, and that a serial number would only be stamped on it if it was required to replace a defective service machine.

Incidentally, there are slight differences between LCC 'A' type punches and later LT versions; these look like LT ones - are they? Also, does anyone have any originals or copies of LT punch waybills?
Reply ticketmachines
4:04 PM on July 3, 2009 
Apart from deducting ticket numbers from the packs the conductor would need to be able to fill in the all important Punch number box on the upper left hand of the waybill,as this punch has no number a waybill could not be made up !.
Reply Jack
12:55 AM on June 29, 2009 
How would the conductor make up a waybill? In the usual way by deducting the starting numbers from the ending numbers of his ticket packs.

Both are LCC "A" punches but I can;t say why there is no serial number.